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Salt Lake City,UT,

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May 22, 2012

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Male

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Age Division Winner

Running Accomplishments:

5k - 16:40 (2014 SLCTC Winter Series)

Half - 1:15:26 (2014 Canyonlands)

Full - 2:34:17 (2014 Boston)

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Stay in shape

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Married with sons ages 8 and 4

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New Balance MR 1400 (2) Lifetime Miles: 469.02
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Saucony Fastwitch 6 (Orange 10.5) Lifetime Miles: 238.47
Saucony Ride 5 Lifetime Miles: 270.14
UA Cold Gear Rubber Lifetime Miles: 398.72
Kinvara 5 Test Lifetime Miles: 537.10
Asics Hyper Speed 6 Lifetime Miles: 128.90
Kinvara 5 (May 2014) Lifetime Miles: 464.01
Altra Loan Peak 1.5 (free) Lifetime Miles: 109.83
New Balance RC 1400 Lifetime Miles: 414.63
Brooks PureFlow 4 (June 15) Lifetime Miles: 380.33
PT Lifetime Miles: 14.00
Brooks Launch 7 (9-15) Lifetime Miles: 234.59
Treadmill 2016 Lifetime Miles: 38.39
Brooks Cascadia May 2015 Lifetime Miles: 120.74
Treadmill 2017 Lifetime Miles: 3.10
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This is what happens on rest days with marathon jitters.

I have not given a thought to what is coming next in running other than to register for the St. George lottery and go from there. If I had not made the St. George lottery, I am not sure I would train for another marathon this year. Like Collin Anderson, I am aware that I am building my foundation on a bad hip. The “hope for the best” strategy has been going well enough so far, but eventually I believe I will have to fix it or potentially be ruined by it.

This has made me think of the arc of an adult runner. Someone like Rob Murphy, Sasha or Fritz who has been doing this their entire adult lives has more insight than I do, but what are the reasons the rest of us get into running, obsess over PRs and then stay consistent or not? Can Rob, Sasha and Fritz see a one year blogger from a mile away (or perhaps miles behind them on a course)?

The primary motivator for getting back into running is usually health, but there are contributing factors. For me, I wanted some redemption. I feel I was a talented runner who didn’t appreciate the gift I was given and I wanted to prove to myself that I could stick with it and be good at it. I also have a social need, and I appreciate that bloggers acknowledge this aspect by putting their work out there for everyone to see and making an effort to meet one another. It is easy to live in isolation as an adult. You don’t really need to make friends if you have a family and a job that occupy most of your waking hours. But for me, the longing for community is always there.

Although PRs and winning may seem like an outward display of braggadocio, I think they are ultimately very personal things. It is part of a journey of the self toward fulfillment of some kind. Running is sexy because the measure of improvement is so concrete and the barriers to entry are so minimal.

Why do some stay with it and some quit? There are a number of ways to stay with it. You can keep obsessing over mileage and PRs, you can try to maintain as you age, you can move to other distances, you can reduce to a minimal volume to maintain fitness, you can make it a part of a fitness regime that includes other priorities or you can get fat again. You can also get on and off the hamster wheel from season to season and year to year. That’s what I am wrestling with now.

I stopped after five months of training last year because a knee injury started creeping up and I sort of fell off the wagon. Then it was hard to convince myself to get back on the wagon when it was 80+ degrees out there during the summer. That hiatus is not far behind me and is right in front of me – I have yet to prove I can run 50+ miles/wk during the summer months. Being a consistent early riser is probably the best solution (I have been persuaded by a comment from Jake K that I should avoid the treadmill if I have hip issues).

Clearly injuries are the one variable that is hardest to control. Is it worth it to see every doctor and spend vast amounts of money to be racing fast if you can trod along and stay healthy? This must be a very personal answer. I am guessing that those who love it and can’t live without it don’t even ask the question. I am definitely healthier and happier running and I am excited to be a part of this community, so do I continue on and at what cost?

Hopefully, I can push all of this off until after this autumn. I have to come up with a training plan and some races between now and then. After all, what better way is there to ignore the inevitable crossroads that each of us will face than tying your shoes (or slipping on your crocs) and getting out for a run?

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Comments
From Chad Robinson on Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:54:12 from 50.73.39.89

Nice post Josh. I share a lot of your same sentiments. I am not one that get the "rush/endorphin kick" of running. Running makes me tired. However, I enjoy the social aspect, the competitive aspect and frankly it helps with my self esteem because I am pretty ok at it. I have been very fortunate with the injury bug to this point so I haven't had to weigh that issue. As far as the summer goes, I find it very helpful to find or make a running group to run with at least a few times a week in the mornings (it makes getting up and out a lot easier). Running is a very individual experience that means a lot of different things to different people.

From Josh E on Thu, May 16, 2013 at 13:03:07 from 205.235.104.4

Thanks Chad. Agreed that it is convenient to compartmentalize motivations but it is more useful to simply add my own experience. I am envious that weight and injuries are not concerns of yours.

I do think getting a morning partner in my neck of the woods is key to the summer, so that will be a priority.

I look forward to meeting you Saturday and getting in a good race!

From Camillo on Sat, May 18, 2013 at 04:43:56 from 79.18.243.91

Josh,

just my experience. I started running in Utah in 2003 mostly for its social aspect, I was a lonely mountain biker before, then going out at lunch time with a group of 2-3 guys from the U to city Creek canyon, up Dry creek, south to Foothills, or west to Emigration Canyon it was a lot of fun. I started training also during the week ends and prepared in this way my first marathon, Ogden 2004. Until 2008 I had only one small injury: a stress fracture in the second toe of my right foot after Des News in 2005. When I moved to Italy running was different, here I am part of a running club (it is mandatory to be able to race) but 90% of my runs are by myself, from october to april in the evening in a nearby industrial area with wide roads and good lighting and footing. During the summer months, always alone, but around a volcanic lake that is pretty and with lots of variety: hills, trees, flat roads and cooler temperatures. In Italy at the beginning I struggled running by myself, now it is my time to think and to escape in the evening in my own relaxing heaven. For me the winter months are harder because it is dark, boring and many days are rainy. Last october after 4 months of low mileage due to bilateral calcaneal spurs, I was finally able to run again without too much discomfort the morning after. I started experimenting with speed/fast workouts and I realized that I really enjoyed them. Time was passing much faster, rain or wind didn't really matter anymore, and also my mind was able to complete shut down all the work related thoughts and stress. I am still doing this nowadays trying also to increase my overall mileage. During this 10 years of running I had many ups and downs, I have always tried just to concentrate on what I am going to do next week rather than looking 5 years from now. Somehow this short horizon is preserving my mental freshness and keeps my motivation high enough to go out and trying to accomplish another good run.

From Josh E on Sun, May 19, 2013 at 09:10:27 from 67.2.82.12

Thanks Camilio. I think the short-term focus is a necessity. I just ran the Ogden Marathon yesterday completely injury free. I am hoping it continues and as long as it does, I won't fuss too much about the hip. Carpe diem.

It looks like you are in a very good place with your running right now and you have La Bell'Italia as your backdrop. I work in Research Park, so I do many of the lunch runs you did and love running in the area.

I personally enjoy running alone and I have no trouble staying motivated and executing my workouts. It is fun to have a partner but I have a hard time fitting others into the schedule. For the summer, I think it will be necessary. It is amazing how easy it is to let yourself down at 5:00 am but how having someone to meet makes all the difference.

Best of luck with your goals! With the speed work and being in a good place generally, I predict they will all come down.

From Camillo on Mon, May 20, 2013 at 14:51:56 from 95.239.220.51

Josh,

I will post here my congratulations for the great marathon in Ogden, you really did like Caesar: "VENI, VIDI, VICI" and also you lived to tell the story. You really did an epic race under prohibitive conditions.

How many memories running through Reasearch Park, around this time of the year it was great on the way back to work stopping by some cherry trees in front of Fort Douglas cemetery and eating cherries until my belly was about to explode.

Congratulations again you did a perfect race!!!

From Josh E on Wed, May 22, 2013 at 09:56:29 from 205.235.104.4

Thanks Camillo (sorry for the prior misspelling - I never met a Camillo in Italia). I need to find those cherries!

Now that I've analyzed the result, I still bled most of my time from miles 18-26 like in my first marathon. I was 1 minute off my goal at mile 18, 2 minutes off at mile 22 and 3.5 minutes off by the end.

That may be cumulative fatigue, but I think there is still an endurance issue there to correct. Last time, I bled 11 minutes and this time I bled less than 4, so at least that's an improvement!

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